Why are we here, to get saved, to obtain eternal life, to pass from death into life.
Jesus says that He knows the Father God, also comments about knowing Old testament Abraham, even declares to them before Abraham was, I am. I guess that he is saying not only am I here now 2,000 years ago recorded in history. But when Abraham was, about 4,000 years ago, He was "I am". So I believe that Jesus is saying he lived/existed over 4,000 years ago was with Abraham, lived and walked this earth 2,000 years ago. And some believe and have experienced him be here at times in the present, mostly living in heaven, making an occasional visit here on earth. I believe what he says is more reliable then what you or I would have to say. Either he knows it all, or he is the biggest lier. People have been talking about him for over 2,000 years. My guess is that after you or I are planted in the ground the memories and talk won't be around the table any longer. Am I saying let's follow the majority, no. I guess this is one thing you have to find out and know for yourself. We all can make a lot of wind for 40 - 80 years, then it dies out.
I'd like to be with that wind, that spirit that never dies.
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And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:50-59
Jesus says that He knows the Father God, also comments about knowing Old testament Abraham, even declares to them before Abraham was, I am. I guess that he is saying not only am I here now 2,000 years ago recorded in history. But when Abraham was, about 4,000 years ago, He was "I am". So I believe that Jesus is saying he lived/existed over 4,000 years ago was with Abraham, lived and walked this earth 2,000 years ago. And some believe and have experienced him be here at times in the present, mostly living in heaven, making an occasional visit here on earth. I believe what he says is more reliable then what you or I would have to say. Either he knows it all, or he is the biggest lier. People have been talking about him for over 2,000 years. My guess is that after you or I are planted in the ground the memories and talk won't be around the table any longer. Am I saying let's follow the majority, no. I guess this is one thing you have to find out and know for yourself. We all can make a lot of wind for 40 - 80 years, then it dies out.
I'd like to be with that wind, that spirit that never dies.
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And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:50-59
